Happening almost as soon as the countries gained independence both the Finnish (1918) and Irish civil wars (1922) were experienced as a profound shock. While both countries recovered, the Finnish conflict left a much
greater legacy which had to be come to terms with over time. The Irish conflict I argue was assimilated into an already existing pattern of state and nation-building. I do not use the terms memory or forgetting
but use the tools of cultural sociology to explore why in the Finnish case, the business of coming to terms with the past took place over two generations, while in Ireland the conflict remains submerged in
popular memory between the War of Independence (1919-21) and the Northern Irish Troubles (1969-1998).
